No misunderstanding. You are assuming an objective universe that exists in terms that can be strictly defined. So, thanks for repeating my point: logic and math work beautifully in a world of perfectly defined criteria, but absent that, and both can go awry. And that’s our world. It can’t be defined.

Five ‘apples for a pie’ turns into four, because people have different definitions, criteria, tastes, opinions, ways of expressing themselves, on and on. How people respond depends on what they are aware of, and if only in that sense, the objective universe isn’t objective, it is relative to the awareness of ‘it.’

There is no one creature, program, model, or being that can tell anyone, anywhere, that, absolutely and objectively THIS apple is good for your pie, and THAT one isn’t.

Definitions define words. But words don’t define being and existence.

Take care!